"First of all I would say that majority of the Indian Muslims and Christians are Hindus if you look at the ancestry. All of these people got converted either for money or by force. " ഈ പ്രസ്താവന തികച്ചും വങ്കത്തമാണ്...രാജ്യത്തെ ക്രിസ്ത്യാനികളുടെയും, മുസ്ലിംകളുടെയും, പൂര്വികര് ഹിന്ദുക്കളായിരുന്നു....പക്ഷെ അവര് മതം മാറിയത് പണത്തിനു വേണ്ടിയോ അല്ലെങ്കില് ബലപ്രയോഗതിലൂടെയോ അല്ല...മറിച്ച് ഹിന്ദു സമുദായത്തിലെ മാനുഷിക മൂല്യങ്ങള്ക്ക് വില കല്പിക്കാത്ത ജാതി വ്യവസ്ഥയും, സവര്ണരുടെ മനുഷ്യത്വ രഹിതമായ പെരുമാറ്റവും കൊണ്ട് പൊരുതി മുട്ടിയ ജനം, ഇസ്ലാമിലെ മാനുഷിക മൂല്യങ്ങളില് ആകൃഷ്ടരയും, അല്ലെങ്കില് ജാതി വ്യവസ്ഥയുടെ ഹസ്തങ്ങളില് നിന്ന് മോചനം നേടിയുമാണ് മതം മാറിയത്....., മറിച്ചുള്ള പ്രചരണം സംഗപരിവാര സൃഷ്ടിയാണ്...പിന്നെ ഖുര്ആനിന്റെ അമാനുഷികത ഇന്ന് ദിനം പ്രതി ശാസ്ത്രം തെളിയിച്ചു കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നു....അവസാനമായി ശാസ്ത്രം കണ്ടെത്തിയ സൂര്യന് പടിഞ്ഞാറ് ഉദിക്കുമെന്ന സത്യം, ഖുറാനില് മുസ്ലിംകള് ആയിരത്തി നാനൂറു കൊല്ലങ്ങളായി വായിച്ചു കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്നു...ഇത് ചെറിയ ഒരു ഉദാഹരണം മാത്രം...ആ ഖുറാന് പറയുന്നു ഇസ്ലാം ദൈവത്തിന്റെ സൃഷ്ടിയാണെന്ന്....അവന്റെ അടുക്കല് സ്വീകാര്യമായ ഒരേ ഒരു മതം ഇസ്ലാമാനെന്നു... എന്നാല് ഖുറാന്റെ പേരില് ശുദ്ദ പൊട്ട താരങ്ങള് എഴുതി വിടുന്ന വങ്കന്മാര് ഉണ്ട്...അവരുടെ പ്രചാരണങ്ങളില് വിശ്വസിക്കാതെ ഇസ്ലാമിനെ കുറിച്ച പഠിക്കാന് ശ്രമിക്കൂ....ഖുറാന് ഒരു തവണ അര്ഥം അരിച്ഞ്ഞു വായിക്കൂ....നിങ്ങള് അത്ഭുടങ്ങള് കാണും....തീര്ച്ച...! ദൈവം നമ്മെ നേര്വഴിയിലാക്കട്ടെ...!!!!
From: steeven fernandes <steevenfernandes@yahoo.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Kaa'ba
This is the perfect reply you gave to this issue. In B.C. there were no Christians and Muslims. In India (may be) all of them were Hindus. That means our ancesters were Hindus. People should think about this. We see Muslims always getting over exited when it comes to the issue of religion. We should think positively before taking something as an issue. Religion is made by people and not by God. He is the only one.
From: SUVAS SREEDHARAN <soulrich34@gmail.com>
To: Keralites@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Kaa'ba
Dear Brothers
First of all I would say that majority of the Indian Muslims and Christians are Hindus if you look at the ancestry. All of these people got converted either for money or by force. So, all your forefathers were praying Hindu Gods.
More important thing is that no God has said that certain children can only come near me, we all are children of God, and certain people for their benefit has divided us all by creating these religions. Can anyone tell there was certain God. There is only one God and he has created a man and woman from whom some children had come and they went to different places and they must have done sex not knowing they are brothers and sisters. So, next generation came and so on it must have happened. So, logically speaking we all are brother and sisters.
Talking about religion, the only religion that will be there if we are all brothers and sisters is humanity. If you cannot be good human, you cannot be a good Hindu or a good Muslin or a good Christian.
If you cannot be good human being, there is no use of going to religious places or reading religious books.
Be a good person, people of every religion will say that you are a good person. Instead of going to religious places and giving lakhs of rupees to temples and masjids or church, give it to the needy and you will be God to those who do not have anything to eat or wear.
Do not go to God, bring him to you in your heart, and this world will be a much better place to live. This earth will become Heaven, Jannat.
First of all I would say that majority of the Indian Muslims and Christians are Hindus if you look at the ancestry. All of these people got converted either for money or by force. So, all your forefathers were praying Hindu Gods.
More important thing is that no God has said that certain children can only come near me, we all are children of God, and certain people for their benefit has divided us all by creating these religions. Can anyone tell there was certain God. There is only one God and he has created a man and woman from whom some children had come and they went to different places and they must have done sex not knowing they are brothers and sisters. So, next generation came and so on it must have happened. So, logically speaking we all are brother and sisters.
Talking about religion, the only religion that will be there if we are all brothers and sisters is humanity. If you cannot be good human, you cannot be a good Hindu or a good Muslin or a good Christian.
If you cannot be good human being, there is no use of going to religious places or reading religious books.
Be a good person, people of every religion will say that you are a good person. Instead of going to religious places and giving lakhs of rupees to temples and masjids or church, give it to the needy and you will be God to those who do not have anything to eat or wear.
Do not go to God, bring him to you in your heart, and this world will be a much better place to live. This earth will become Heaven, Jannat.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 3:25 PM, sujeet kumar <sujeetkumar287@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear BrotherSpreading such message, I believe is an irresponsible behavior.I am a Hindu and believe in only one religion that is Humanity.The message you have propagated is baseless until it is supported by some concrete evidence.If you do have some please send to us.In the name of making confidential zones barring someone from entering into Mecca-Madina which is a religious place has got no logic base.Religion is like open arms of a mother who never differentiates between any of her children even if they are dirty.She never tells her child to go and get cleaned and only then I will embrace you.The very first thing which she does ,she embarrasses her child in her arms pours her love on him and then cleans him.Defaming our Great Leader APJ Abdul Qalam on the basis of some baseless parameters doesn't make any sense.Your act of defaming him is like spitting on sun.I would advice you to better abstain from such an act.If some one serves the humanity in true sense he is the true religious man he need not to pray Namaz Five Times or go for ZakatHis selflessness makes him capable enough to be one to one with the God the Almighty and his loved one.If you conndradict pl do write to meYou are most welcomePersonal Deep RegardsOn Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Mohammed Mohd. Shamim <mms_incridible@yahoo.com> wrote:
HiFirstly let me condemn for the criticism made by both of my brother(Salman & Biju). As there should be facts while talking about someone with such great personality in their field.Replying to the question posed by my brother Biju is that, every country has its confidential zone and can be entered only by certain judged criteria. Likewise in Islam we have confidential zone(i.e;Mecca & Madina) and to enter here you have to accept the judging criteria.The criteria are as follows:1.To believe in One God and associate none other than him2.To summit your will to Almighty God.3. And last but not the least to believe in Last and Final revelation send by Him to the Last and Final messenger.Then u will be able to get all question and claims satisfied.Best RegardsMohammed M.S.
From: Salman Babu <coolsallu1977@yahoo.com>
To: Keralites <Keralites@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 26 December 2011 9:24 PMHi,
Its not the issue that birds sit on Kaa'ba please try to understand the religion you follow whether its quran, bible or githa and you need to understand one thing Zam Zam in Meccah is created by Allah after these much of years why its not getting dried there are more than 50 Lakhs people visiitng meccah its a creation of Allah and one more thing a true muslim should not be like APJ Abdul Kalaam he is a good human being and done lots to the country and we respect hima true muslim is who follows Allah and do namaaz 5 times and fast in the month of Ramzan, do zakat etc.
--- On Mon, 12/26/11, Biju Indian <india_biju@yahoo.in> wrote:
From: Biju Indian <india_biju@yahoo.in>
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Kaa'ba
To: "Keralites" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 26, 2011, 4:15 AM
Even after exposing a lot of false claims by fake Muslim Scholars still it is continuing… …………………New claim – You cannot see birds in Kabba.Some Doubts on this claim are as follows:-1) If it is so what is the advantage?2) Who made research on this?3) Since non Muslims cannot enter in to Mecca and Medina how we can believe this claim?4) What is the intention behind these types of fake claims?(Not yours but the one who claim this)My dear Muslim brothers – please don't spoil your life in the name of religion. Before spreading such claims please enquire about the fact. There will be a lot of fake scholars (eg: Zakir Naik) with hidden agendas who get the clap from low class Muslim audiences. It doesn't mean they are correct. Please think, analyze each and every statement scientifically, rationally and logically and then accept or go behind them. Be a true Muslim like APJ Abdul Kalam.
Biju
From: rajesh pr <rajeshprdxb@yahoo.com>
To: "Keralites@yahoogroups.com" <Keralites@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2011 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [www.keralites.net] Kaa'ba
ശബ്ദ മുഖിരധമായ ഒരു സ്ഥലത്ത് പകഷികള് അധികം കാണില്ല. മാത്രമല്ല ക അബ അത്ര ഉയരം ഉള്ള ഒരു കെട്ടിടം അല്ല. അതിനേക്കാള് ഉയരമുള്ള കെട്ടിടങ്ങള് അടുത്ത് ഉള്ളതിനാല് പക്ഷികള് അങ്ങോട്ടേ പോകു. .പക്ഷികള്ക്ക് മതവും ജാതിയും ഒന്നും ഇല്ല .... അവക്ക് ദൈവവും ഇല്ല.. അങ്ങിനെ ആണ് എങ്കില് ഒരു പള്ളിയുടെ മുകളിലും അവ ഇരിക്കുവാന് പേടിക്കു മായിരുന്നു.
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Sujeet Kumar, Dy.Comdt.
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